tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post8687642384156721157..comments2022-11-11T04:13:56.292-08:00Comments on In a Strange Land: A World That Dares Not Speak Its Name?Iggy Ohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10834075825456226770noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-78699753318936994072011-03-25T13:31:29.665-07:002011-03-25T13:31:29.665-07:00I have to agree with this - the SL brand is soiled...I have to agree with this - the SL brand is soiled. <br /><br />I am an organiser for a project that was started nearly five years ago - an attempt to use the platform as a place to organise a Left Unity group, and for the anti-capitalist Left to come together from across the real world and share experiences.<br /><br />Now, I know this is a "specialist" application of the interface, but the group has been relatively successful - with people who are ALREADY IN the V.E. To say to people interested in Left Politics in the real world that we organise in SL, is, quite honestly embarrassing.<br /><br />Our group (SL Left Unity) discusses rl issues and encourages through discourse, people to get involved in left politics in rl. It has had some success. I don't, however, believe that such a group could be set up now from scratch. I feel that SL was killed off by adverse publicity AND perhaps it's attraction - ie. in the early days, "Anything goes." The sex thing will never leave it unless it is operated on an entirely different log in interface and grid - but I have no idea as to how that can be done.<br /><br />The trivial use of SL is not enhanced by the *romantic* videos on the login page. I personally think some of the work that Universities such as the Universities of Delaware or Ontario do there, and such commons projects such as the Four Bridges Project with it's Afghanistan Museum and displays etc were highlighted, SL would again become Zeitgeisty.<br /><br />SL has relaxing uses such as shopping, building treehouses and the likes - but by far the most amazing work is the education and political work that goes on there.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13959528685165205482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-82630178606711333242011-03-25T10:24:44.638-07:002011-03-25T10:24:44.638-07:00lol yes - I was the project manager of Theatron 3...lol yes - I was the project manager of Theatron 3 (the sim in which the sessions were set) and we've always been upfront about the Second Life involvement. I can understand how people might want to airbrush out the SL connection though.Mark Childshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12862795702806719677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-4066450376116498122011-03-24T16:59:10.577-07:002011-03-24T16:59:10.577-07:00The only LL adverts that got me interested were tw...The only LL adverts that got me interested were two. First, the "put some steam in your punk" that crops up at Koinup from time to time. Second, this one:<br /><br />http://www.koinup.com/iggyo/work/248806/<br /><br />These are my people :)Iggy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10834075825456226770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-5394594539669569072011-03-24T16:25:38.782-07:002011-03-24T16:25:38.782-07:00It's great to try and capture a mass market. ...It's great to try and capture a mass market. While my focus is on education, I think it's very important for virtual worlds to have broad appeal.<br /><br />I have a few marketing ideas up my sleeve that I'll be using in my work with ReactionGrid. <br /><br />And none of those ideas involve avatars in bikinis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-24870334264180982312011-03-24T08:30:26.014-07:002011-03-24T08:30:26.014-07:00I must travel in very different circles. I still g...I must travel in very different circles. I still get "What's that?" when I mention Second Life. And when I say "It's a virtual world." they keep on staring. Still searching for the right elevator speech.Elaine Greywalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09490094339478164401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-12556571742420878482011-03-24T04:57:34.874-07:002011-03-24T04:57:34.874-07:00I don't suppose Linden Lab can grab the mass m...I don't suppose Linden Lab can grab the mass market they need for growth with videos like this one at their YouTube Channel:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/fEN5rF<br /><br />It shows that The Lab still promotes other aspects of their world but are enough folks listening?<br /><br />There may not be enough Steampunks and academics and designers to pay their bills, I suppose. Pity.<br /><br />We'd build one hell of a world.Iggy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10834075825456226770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-85857510441970082442011-03-24T02:18:03.208-07:002011-03-24T02:18:03.208-07:00Great post! And I agree with Pathfinder....
I hav...Great post! And I agree with Pathfinder....<br /><br />I have had a posting like this myself "is Second life embarrassing?" and sorry to say the brand/name is soiled and its very hard to turn that to something positive. It will cost them serious PR money...Mera Kranfelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17671947433797959660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-48272844337730841652011-03-24T02:06:31.819-07:002011-03-24T02:06:31.819-07:00We ran an activity almost identical to the one at ...We ran an activity almost identical to the one at Bryn Mawr last December, with half the group in SL and the other half in OpenSim. It was the same experience in both:<br /><br />http://lucius-games.blogspot.com/2010/12/results-of-opensimsl-exercise.html<br /><br />I would like to think that virtual world technologies are now mainstream; and that the choice is not worth mentioning, any more than saying that the results will be written up in Microsoft Word. Although the tainted name of SL is probably still a factor.<br /><br />They seem to be aiming at a market somewhere between the loose social connectedness of facebook and twitter, and the collaboration-for-a-task of MMOGs. It seems like a small niche, and if all you're really selling is empty space then you still need to attract the creatives.Matthew Leachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959050785626635222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-24826668858742859212011-03-23T18:27:23.669-07:002011-03-23T18:27:23.669-07:00Once I saw an SL advert by an in-world merchant th...Once I saw an SL advert by an in-world merchant that said "Be 18 again...forever."<br /><br />Just don't look in a mirror when you log off.Iggy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10834075825456226770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5041624883246722973.post-18118108328527796672011-03-23T16:50:49.037-07:002011-03-23T16:50:49.037-07:00To understand the specific market that a company i...To understand the specific market that a company is shooting for, just look at its current advertising.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxjSi-LJUY4<br /><br />Enough said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com